Hey, pull up a chair.

It's Hacks on Tap with David Axelrod and Mike Murphy.

Mr. President, you know, the chair. Somebody said that about me the other day.

He said, who doesn't know me very well?

They said, you're such a kind person.

And I said, say that again.

They said, you're a kind person.

I said, I've never heard that before.

It was a weird statement. I was kind. I've heard of words that. I don't know, I've never heard that before. It was a weird statement.

I was kind.

I've heard of words that, I don't know, I better about telling you.

You know, I've heard of, I've been called a lot of things, but it's sort of a different

kind of a word.

It's like an old-fashioned word, is that?

There you go. He's honestly, John Heilman, he seemed bewildered by the suggestion and almost took it as an insult it felt like.

Well, I thought it was strange how candid he was. David, he said he's never heard that before.

For once, I think he's telling the truth. He probably has never been called kind before.

But one thing I notice about Trump is that whenever, and I learned this the first time I ever spoke with him, he called, he wanted to,

he wanted to take over the oil leak project down in the Gulf. And he called and he said,

hey, you know, that admiral you down here, down there, he says, seems like a nice guy,

which I now know is a prelude to him trashy. He's an idiot. So, and he said, but he doesn't know

what he's doing. But Trump doesn't think words like kind and nice are, speaking of kind,

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