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Call Me Back: Why Are Liberals Against Liberation? – with Elica Le Bon

The Ricochet Superfeed

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News, Politics

4.4652 Ratings

🗓️ 9 March 2026

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

How did the oppressive Ayatollah regime convince the Western left that they’re the victims? Dan speaks with Iranian-American lawyer and activist Elica Le Bon about the ideological narratives that form (and distort) the West’s reaction to the Iran war. Le Bon explains the deep divide between the Iranian people and the Islamic regime, the cycles […]

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As events accelerate in the Middle East, the team here at Arc Media is increasing our coverage,

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more conversations, more context, more time spent trying to help make sense of what's happening,

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and all with an expanding cast of podcast hosts, analysts, and journalists.

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So in 1979, the lie that the regime sold to the Iranian people was that the way to free Iran and the people of the Middle East from the oppressor is to eliminate all forms of Western imperialism in Iran.

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But it is them who are the empire builders. It is them who sent their proxies out to Lebanon, to Yemen, to Gaza, because for the regime, to export its revolution across the Middle

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East, Israel, the Jewish nation will have to fall. Now, of course, they can't come out and say

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that to the world because they just will essentially sound like the Nazis that they are. This is a

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Nazi regime. And so they disguise their Nazism behind anti-imperialist rhetoric. They tell the world, well, this isn't about

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the fact that we hate Jews or this Jewish nation. It's just about the fact that we hate

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imperialism.

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It's 3.30 p.m. on Sunday, March 8th here in New York City. It is 11 p.m. on Sunday, March 8th in Tehran,

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