This is the Cater Daily podcast for Tuesday, April 22nd, 2025.

I'm Caleb Brown.

After well over 4,000 episodes in almost 18 years that I've been hosting the Cater Daily podcast, this is the last one.

And for this episode, please forgive me that I'm going to indulge myself

just a bit by choosing a dedicated fan to provide an appreciative and, dare I say it,

absolute softball of an interview for me. My good friend and colleague at the Cato Institute,

Deirdre McCloskey. We talked about what makes a good interview and what I'll be doing next.

Deirdre, I'm a little nervous about this conversation.

I don't think you should be, dear. It's about one of my favorite subjects, you.

Thank you so much. That makes me feel really good. And that, well, part of the reason

that I wanted to talk to you for my last episode of the Cato Daily podcast, one is that

you are one of the most distinguished scholars that Cato has.

Well, thank you.

You are in my, let me tell you a story about D.D.ra, if I can.

Every time...

I thought it was about you.

Well, I'm getting...

We're having fun here.

So, every time I come to D.C. from the beautiful Commonwealth of Kentucky, I always make a B-line for your office, as I think a lot of people do.

And I think, I look at my watch and I think, do I have an hour?

Because any conversation with you is immediately going to rocket off into a wide variety

of different subjects, all fascinating.

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