Cage Fight with Bruce Thornton

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Victor Davis Hanson and Jack Fowler

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🗓️ 15 February 2023

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Victor Davis Hanson interviews write and scholar Bruce Thornton on his recent edited book "Cage Fight" about civilian-military tensions from antiquity to the present with essays on ancient Athens, the American Civil War, the Cold War, and Vietnam.

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to the Victor Davis Hansen show. Victor is an author, scholar, columnist,
0:07.5	essayist, political and cultural critic. And as we like to say here at the podcast, an
0:14.1	unwitting provocateur of the left. So today we have a special show. We have with us Bruce
0:23.2	Thornton. He is a research fellow at the Hoover Institution. And he has a new book out that I was
0:30.8	going to put the in front of it. And we had a long discussion of the word the in a recent podcast.
0:36.4	But it's called cage fight. Civilian and democratic pressures on military conflicts and foreign
0:43.6	policy. Bruce is also the author of I counted about six books. I hope I got that right.
0:50.4	No, I'm interjecting. He has 10. 10 books. I miss some of them. The Hoover site, the Hoover site is being
1:00.5	not jealous. He didn't produce anything. I know. I know Sammy, but you could have asked me. I was
1:06.5	his colleague for 22 years. I've known him for 40 years. I was okay. I lightly told you with a
1:12.6	little bit of research. All right. So he has a book out called Greek ways. How the
1:20.2	Greeks created Western civilization. Searching for Joaquin, it's about Joaquin Marietta,
1:27.1	decline in fall, Europe's slow motion suicide. And he wrote very, very early on in his career. He
1:34.4	wrote an especially good book that Victor often mentions all the time. It's called Earros.
1:40.6	The myth, the myth of ancient Greek sexuality. So hopefully today some time they'll be discussing
1:47.8	that, but those are Bruce's works. And Victor, of course, is the Martin and Nile Anderson,
1:53.5	Senior Fellow in Military History and Classics at the Hoover Institution and the way in
1:58.1	Amarsha Busky Distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale College. So we are going to take a break
2:05.3	and then come right back and talk to Bruce for the 45 minutes or so here. We'll be right back.
2:18.5	Welcome back. So Bruce, Bruce, welcome to you. We're glad to have you with us.
2:23.9	Thank you. Very excited about this new book. Victor, I think I'll let you take it from here.
2:29.4	Okay, I'd like to remind everybody that Bruce works at the Hoover Institution. He's been there
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