Hey folks, John Carlin here. I recently served as the number two of the Justice Department,

and before I took on that position, I hosted Cafe CyberSpace Podcast. This week, I'm

excited to fill in for Priten Joyce on the Cafe Insider Podcast. Joining me is Chris

Inglis. Chris recently served as the first US National Cyber Director, a position he

helped envision and create. In that role, he advised the President on Cybersecurity Issues

and helped the administration develop its first National Cybersecurity Strategy. Before

that, Chris served in many positions throughout government, including as Deputy Director of

the National Security Agency under two Presidents. Chris and I discussed the National Security

implications of artificial intelligence, the lessons learned from recent cyber attacks,

and the responsibilities of the National Cyber Director. Today, we're pleased to share

an excerpt from that episode with listeners of Stay Tuned. But to hear our full conversation

and access all other Cafe Insider content, just try the membership for $1 for one month.

You can do that at cafe.com slash insider. That's cafe.com slash insider. We look forward

to having you as part of the insider community. We're on the cusp of trying to regulate a

new breakout technology that actually I think you will do in the cyber security, but that's

artificial intelligence. Maybe just take a step back. The White House recently announced

it's doing a listening session and wants to put out principles on artificial intelligence.

That's very recent. Taking a step back, let me just start with, what do you think the risks

and benefits of artificial intelligence are in National Security? Does it implicate

national security? That's a great question. I would observe two things before I answer

that question. One, it's moving so fast that I'm not sure we yet know what the risks and

benefits are or that we will ever be kind of line abreast with it as it races forward.

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