CAFE Insider 3/14: The 10th Justice (with Joyce Vance & Michael Dreeben)

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🗓️ 14 March 2023

⏱️ 21 minutes

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In this special episode of the CAFE Insider podcast, Joyce Vance interviews Michael Dreeben, while Preet is out. Dreeben served in the Solicitor General’s office for over 30 years, including 24 years as the Deputy Solicitor General in charge of the federal government’s criminal docket. He is one of only eight people, in the history of the country, to have argued over 100 cases before the Supreme Court. In this sample from the show, Dreeben discusses some of the most memorable moments from his many Supreme Court oral arguments, including when Chief Justice Roberts quoted rapper Eminem and when the justices asked him whether it would be constitutional for the FBI to place tracking devices on the justices’ cars. In the full episode, Dreeben discusses: – The work of the Solicitor General’s office; – How he prepares for Supreme Court oral arguments; and – What he learned as counselor to special counsel Robert Mueller in the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. Stay informed. For analysis of the most important legal and political issues of our time, become a member of CAFE Insider for one month for $1.00: www.cafe.com/insider. You’ll get access to full episodes of the podcast, and other exclusive benefits. Follow Up Against The Mob and listen to new episodes each Wednesday. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE Studios and Vox Media Podcast Network. Check out other CAFE podcasts: Now & Then, Up Against The Mob Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hey folks, Joyce Vance here.
0:03.7	Preed is out this week, so on today's episode of Cafe Insider, I'm joined by my friend,
0:08.4	Michael Dreeben.
0:10.1	Michael served in the Solister General's office for over 30 years, including 24 years as the
0:15.1	Deputy Solister General in charge of the federal government's criminal docket.
0:19.8	He's one of only eight people in the history of the country to have argued over 100 cases
0:25.6	in the Supreme Court.
0:27.4	We talk about some of the most memorable moments from his many Supreme Court oral arguments,
0:32.5	how tough decisions are made in the Solister General's office, and what he learned as
0:36.9	counsel or to special counsel Robert Mueller in the investigation into Russian interference
0:42.0	in the 2016 presidential election.
0:45.0	Today, we're sharing a clip from the interview with listeners of Stay Tune.
0:49.4	To hear our full conversation and access all other Cafe Insider content, try the membership
0:54.8	for just one dollar for one month.
0:57.5	You can do that at cafe.com slash insider.
1:01.4	That's cafe.com slash insider.
1:04.6	We look forward to having you as a part of the insider community.
1:14.1	I do have a favorite moment of yours during oral argument that I want to ask you about.
1:19.5	The case is called Jones, a case about GPS monitoring.
1:22.6	You remember Jones, I'm sure.
1:24.8	The government has placed a GPS monitor on a vehicle.
1:29.0	What was the issue in Jones and what was the position that you were staking out?
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