Hello, welcome to the theology podcast. It's great to have you here for this special

episode. We are in Oxford, in the United Kingdom, in the Lamb and Flag, which is a pub that was frequented by the Inklings and we're really

quite pleased that the people who run this place saw fit to let people off the street just like us just kind of wander in and

take over a room in the back and do what we're doing.

But I am C. R. Wiley, I'm a pastor, I serve a church in the Pacific Northwest. I taught philosophy

for about a decade at the college level. I was the Vice President of the Academy of Philosophy

and Letters in the United States and I am a senior editor of Touchstone magazine.

All right, Glenn. I'm Glenn Sunshine. I am a retired history professor

specializing in the reformation. I am a senior fellow at the

Colson Center for Christian Worldview. I work for Reflections Ministries.

I have my own 501c3 that's a nonprofit organization called every square inch ministries I write I teach

freelance I do a bunch of things all right Tom I'm Tom Price I teach systematic theology

I teach Systematic theology I teach theological ethics and apologetics

and one of the places Gordon Conwell Theological Seminary and this is kind of like a homecoming for you this is a homecoming for me and although our wonderful

guest wouldn't probably remember me I do remember him. I was a bit younger

had a little more hair and I was a student here and I can remember the very topic was on

critical realism but anyway we can get into that a little bit later and it was many

years ago but anyway we're honored to have Professor Alistair McGrath with us.

Theologian apologist writes widely and richly, especially in the field of science and religion, the Reformation and

apologetics but I'll let him introduce himself.

Sir, anything that Tom Misch...

Thanks, thank you. Well I'm Alistair. Like C.S. Lewis, I was born in Belfast, like C.S. Lewis, I began as an atheist and

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