All right. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates on today's show. I have a very special guest, a returning guest. We spoke back in August about his book titled Crime, Quick and Easy Ways to Avoid Becoming a Victim. His name is Robert L. Brian. But today we're going to talk about another book. Title of that book is

C-case, An Unlikely Journey from Transit Cop to Internal Affairs Bureau Squad Commander. And again,

the author's name is Robert L. Brian. Really interesting book traces his career and some of the

really interesting things he did for the IAB or the internal affairs

bureaus. So I'm delighted to have them back. So Robert, Brian, welcome to the show. How are you?

Very good. Thank you for having me.

Awesome. Thanks for returning. For people who may not have heard our earlier interview,

can you talk kind of a little bit about your career and what led you to write this book,

C-Kis? Well, I've spent my entire adult life in law enforcement and security. I had started off

after leaving college, after graduating college. I spent a couple of years on the Mexican

border as a border patrol agent. And then I'm a lifelong New Yorker, so that was the only time

I was out of New York City. And when I returned, I joined the New York City Transit Police Department.

I did 20 years there retiring at the rank of captain. And it's during the time

after I become a lieutenant is when I went into two years with the Internal Affairs Bureau.

Gotcha. And they kind of had this assignment where they make you become an IAB member, right?

Yeah, that was an interesting thing at the time because this was right after, as I said,

I was a member of New York City Transit Police.

New York City for most of the 20th century, until when the other departments began to exist, had three separate

police departments.

You always had since the middle of the 1800s had the New York City Police Department, but

in the 1930s and then shortly thereafter, the New York City Transit Police and the New York City Housing Police came into existence.

So transit dealt with policing the subways while housing was the New York City housing projects.

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