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A judge hands down a landmark decision involving artificial intelligence and copyright law.

From American public media, this is Marketplace Tech. I'm Novosafo. Welcome to our week in review episode. This week,

Apple irked customers with movie ads popping out of its wallet app.

The Mideast conflict reminded us of a lack of security and smart surveillance cameras.

And a federal judge handed down a landmark ruling on AI's use of copyrighted works, citing a legal doctrine known as Fair Use.

And that's where we begin with our guest this week, Joanna Stern, senior personal tech columnist at the Wall Street Journal.

Fair use is this process where we can use content if we don't recreate it

in the original form, right? And journalists use it all the time. Journalists use it a lot. I use it a lot

in videos, right? I might want to talk about a movie. I don't have rights to that whole movie.

So we use a really small snippet of that movie and we show it to you in a video or commercial, etc.

What the judge in this case said is that anthropics use of books, anthropic to train their models,

took lots of books, actual full books, through it through their large language models during training.

And that's what they used to train some of their models amongst lots of other data, right? All the data on the internet, whatever they could get their

hands on. And so what the judge ruled here and what Anthropic was clearly arguing in their case

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