Hello and welcome to not another one with me, Ian Martin, Miranda Green and Tim Montgomery.

We're not joined by Steve today, but we're going to have a weekend discussion

in the aftermath of the extraordinary by-election results. I mean, let's just get down straight to it.

Miranda, what's your initial reaction? Well, I think it's a fascinating, fascinating result and such a large win for the Green Party. It's their

first ever by-election win. You know, and this has really always been a very small minority party in the UK,

unlike other Western democracies, right, where there's always been a party of the left and quite often a green-tinged one, and we now seem to have that in the UK.

So I think the sort of, you know, medium-term significance of that is really interesting because it so complicates matters for the Labour Party.

I think clearly this is a huge blow to Kea Starma because being beaten into third place behind the Greens and Reform,

when it was seen to be an incredibly tight three-way race, is about the worst outcome

because it brings out this awful electoral dilemma for the Labour leadership,

which is, you know, do we chase those voters that we're losing to the right,

the more high-profile Reform UK, or do we realise that we're actually shedding more

from our centre-left coalition of voters who gave us power and how do we hang on to as many of them as possible?

And I think it's going to be absolute carnage inside the parliamentary party. Tim, is this, I mean, this wasn't expected, wasn't? I mean, in the run-up to it,

I mean, when we were recording our episode on Tuesday before the by-election, it seemed,

the polling seemed to suggest it was a kind of three-way split and that it was almost

anyone's to win and there was some expectation management going on and suggestions that labor

had done it after all and that that that dread hilarious phrase down the ages the reception

on the on the on the doorstep, which turned out to be complete nonsense

and the Greens absolutely stormed it. Yeah, well I think we were slightly discombobulated,

or certainly I was, perhaps I'm easily discombobulated, but by the Prime Minister's visit

on Monday. And you know, normally what happens is the parties get the,

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