Boom. Shake the room, Fire Nation. JL.D. here and welcome to Entrepreneurs on Fire,

brought to you by the HubSpot Podcast Network, the audio destination for business professionals

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online or offline business. To drop these value bombs, I brought to Clay Clark into Eofire Studios.

Clay is the former US SBA entrepreneur of the year, founder of six multimillion dollar companies,

Forbes contributor, author of 13 books and hosts of the six times iTunes chart topic podcast.

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All right, Fire Nation, we are rocking and rolling today, as always, talking about scaling our online or offline business.

And of course, there's nobody better talk about this with than Mr.

Clay Clark himself. So I'm just going to have Clay come on. We've got a couple of amazing guests

as well that he's going to introduce. So Clay, say what's up and introduce our lovely guests.

You're listening out there to EO Fire. You're in the right spot. This is where you go. And I'm hoping today we can bring to you real people. JLD, you have thousands of real wonderful listeners that listen to this show, hundreds of thousands, millions. And I just wanted to introduce you to two listeners, Deborah and Juliana. There's a little bit of controversy about how to pronounce her last name. You can verify they're real. They're not a hologram. They're not an AI. Their website is give a derm.com. That's give a derm.com. So, Deborah, why don't you clear up the controversy on the pronunciation of your last name and tell us who you are? Grimness. It's a Norwegian last name. I married into it.

Deborah Grimness, and I'm founder of Gibaderm.

This is my daughter, Juliana.

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