Bursting the Reality Bubble w/ Ziya Tong

Tech Won't Save Us

Paris Marx

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🗓️ 27 April 2020

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Paris Marx is joined by Ziya Tong to talk about how COVID-19 is helping us to see the world in a new way, and how that might open the door to reimagining how we organize society. Our "reality bubbles" about work, the food system, technology, and our relationship to nature are being severely challenged, but the question remains whether we can seize this moment to build a better world in the pandemic's aftermath. Ziya Tong is the author of "The Reality Bubble: Blind Spots, Hidden Truths, and t...

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0:00.0	We talk about the essential workers.
0:02.0	But I think if we were to drill down deeper, what we would see is all life is essential. Hello and welcome to Tech Won't Save Us, a podcast that wonders why we haven't
0:28.7	nationalized Amazon yet and why Jeff Bezos can keep getting away with opposing his
0:33.8	workers' efforts at unionization while making them experience terrible working conditions.
0:39.7	I'm your host, Paris Marx, and today I'm speaking with Zaya Tong.
0:43.6	Zaya is the author of The Reality Bubble, Blind Spots, Hidden Truths, and the Dangerous
0:48.3	Illusions that shape our world. She was the co-host of Discovery Channel's Science News program,
0:53.6	Daily Planet. She also serves on the board of Discovery Channel's Science News program, Daily Planet.
0:54.8	She also serves on the board of World Wildlife Fund International and was the vice chair of
1:00.3	World Wildlife Fund in Canada. She's also on the board of the narwhal.
1:04.6	Today we'll be speaking about how COVID-19 must be used to break our own reality bubbles
1:09.0	about the world that we live in and to usher
1:11.2	us into a better future. Tech Won't Save Us is a new podcast, so if you do like what you hear,
1:16.8	please leave us a five-star review on Apple Podcasts. You can also follow the podcast on Twitter,
1:22.3	where its handle is at Tech Won't Save Us. My handle is at Paris Marks and you can find Zayatong at at Zayatong.
1:30.7	Enjoy the interview. Zayatong, welcome to Tech Won't Save Us. Thank you very much, Paris. It's
1:37.5	great to be on your podcast. Yeah, it's great to speak with you. So obviously I wanted to talk to
1:42.2	you because your book, The Reality Bubble, seems really
1:46.2	relevant in this moment that we're in right now. Obviously, we're seeing a ton of people losing
1:53.5	their jobs right now, over 22 million people in the United States. And I'm sure that number
1:57.9	will be even higher, you know, by the time that this episode gets released.
2:03.3	We're seeing long food lines of people waiting to get food in their cars.
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