Burnout, Boundaries, and the Business of Starting Over

The goop Podcast

Goop, Inc. and Audacy

Society & Culture, Education, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness

4.4 • 7K Ratings

🗓️ 15 July 2025

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

This week on The goop Podcast, Gwyneth Paltrow sits down with Gregg Renfrew, founder and former CEO of cult-favorite clean beauty brand Beautycounter. Renfrew shares her story of building—and selling—a billion-dollar business, being unexpectedly sidelined, and ultimately pulled back in when things began to unravel. She opens up about letting go of ego, redefining success, and beginning again with clarity and purpose. Now, through her new venture, Counter, she’s rewriting the rules—focusing on product, transparency, and building with integrity. In this conversation, Renfrew opens up about managing burnout, setting boundaries, and the courage it’s taken to get to where she is today. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	When you are pioneering anything or introducing new ideas to the culture, you get criticized.
0:09.0	You do?
0:10.0	Yeah. Did you hear about that?
0:12.0	I didn't find the one. I found someone I respected and we made it the one.
0:17.0	In a sort of longing kind of view of love, people understand each other as if by magic.
0:22.4	Nothing in itself is addictive on one hand. And in the hand, everything could be addictive if
0:27.2	there's an emptiness in that person that needs to be filled. I now know that nobody changes
0:32.5	until they change their energy. And when you change your energy, you change your life.
0:38.1	I'm Gwyneth Peltro. This is the Goop Podcast, bringing together thought leaders, culture
0:44.4	changers, creatives, founders and CEOs, scientists, doctors, healers and seekers. Here to start
0:51.6	conversations, because simply asking questions and listening has the power
0:56.1	to change the way we see the world.
0:58.7	Here we go.
1:01.0	Welcome to the Goop Podcast. I'm Gwyneth Paltrow, and today I'm joined by my friend Greg
1:06.5	Renfrew, an entrepreneur, a change maker, and the founder and former CEO of Beauty Counter,
1:13.7	where she helped spark the clean beauty movement in the U.S.
1:17.6	Now she's channeling everything she's learned into her next chapter,
1:21.6	Counter, a fresh take on clean beauty, focused on transparency, performance, and impact. And we are proud to be bringing
1:29.5	it into the Goop world. I wanted to sit down with Greg to talk about reinvention, what clean
1:36.1	really means today, and how she's rethinking everything from ingredients to leadership. So let's get
1:42.7	into it.
1:53.1	Welcome to the Goop podcast, Greg. It's so good to have you on. You have, you're, you know,
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