BULLYING: When Aggression Runs Wild
This Jungian Life Podcast
Joseph Lee, Deborah Stewart, Lisa Marchiano
4.7 • 2.1K Ratings
🗓️ 11 September 2025
⏱️ 98 minutes
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Bullying is about unmanaged aggression and broken containment in early life. Aggression is normal, but kids need adults to name it, hold it, and channel it into play with clear rules. When that doesn’t happen, some children learn to control and humiliate to feel safe, while others shut down and can’t access protective anger. Bullying works as a quick fix for shame or missing recognition, or as an enactment of a harsh inner critic; it gives brief relief and then flips into emptiness. In pairs and groups, people assign disowned traits to a target and attack them, and the crowd effect spreads cruelty while personal conscience fades. Schools should step in directly and calmly: set firm limits, bring the conflict into speech, teach regulation, build empathy, and help vulnerable students practice plain, assertive pushback. Change is easier in childhood; in adults, the pattern hardens and can cross into legal trouble. The ongoing task is individuation and shadow work: own the times you bullied or collapsed, take back what you projected, and use aggression for boundaries and clarity rather than domination or surrender.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to this Jungian life. |
| 0:04.2 | Three good friends and Jungian analysts, Lisa Marchiano, Deborah Stewart, and Joseph Lee, |
| 0:09.7 | invite you to join them for an intimate and honest conversation that brings a psychological perspective to important issues of the day. |
| 0:19.4 | I'm Lisa Marchiano, and I'm a Jungian analyst in Philadelphia. I'm Joseph Lee, |
| 0:24.9 | and I'm a Jungian analyst in Virginia Beach, Virginia. I'm Deborah Stewart, a Jungian analyst, |
| 0:31.1 | and Cape Cod. |
| 0:48.3 | Thank you. Today we're going to be talking about bullying from a depth perspective. |
| 0:54.6 | Bullying is something that ebbs and flows in the collective concerns. |
| 1:06.4 | There are certain time periods in my own life where I remember bullying as a topic for school children was very, very present and being born in 62. |
| 1:14.3 | I remember being in school and bullying was never addressed, so it moves in and out of collective concern. There's any number of modern takes on it, but the psychoanalytic tradition has a number of |
| 1:24.4 | important ways of understanding bullying and perhaps even some solutions. |
| 1:31.5 | So today we're going to take a look at that. |
| 1:36.2 | Well, you know, where I started, or at least tried to start, was sort of like, what is the human instinctual and, if you will, |
| 1:48.6 | archetypal root of bullying? |
| 1:52.4 | And where I went with that was just aggression. |
| 1:55.9 | Uh-huh. |
| 1:56.5 | Bullying is a form of aggression, |
| 1:59.5 | where the intention is to hurt, to cause distress, |
| 2:05.3 | to do harm. But, or and, we need aggression. Uh, if we come hardwired for it, uh, We need it to assert ourselves. |
| 2:20.6 | So there's, you know, this root which, like so many things, can be used proactively |
| 2:27.6 | for growth and development or reactively and negatively to hurt others, you know, or ourselves, as in self-sabotage. |
| 2:42.6 | But today we're talking about it's misdirected against others with the intent to hurt. |
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