Jung’s Inner Guides: The Secret of The Red Book
This Jungian Life Podcast
Joseph Lee, Deborah Stewart, Lisa Marchiano
4.7 • 2.1K Ratings
🗓️ 4 September 2025
⏱️ 70 minutes
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Jung’s Red Book is the primary research record of his systematic experiments in active imagination after the break with Freud, combining calligraphic German text and paintings that document dialogues with his inner guides—especially Philemon and Salome—which became source material for his innovative psychological concepts: Psyche’s autonomy, the collective unconscious, the transcendent function, and individuation. The Red Book reveals the secret source of his groundbreaking ideas.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to this Jungian life. |
| 0:04.2 | Three good friends and Jungian analysts, Lisa Marchiano, Deborah Stewart, and Joseph Lee, |
| 0:09.7 | invite you to join them for an intimate and honest conversation that brings a psychological perspective to important issues of the day. |
| 0:19.4 | I'm Lisa Marchiano, and I'm a Jungian analyst in Philadelphia. I'm Joseph Lee, |
| 0:24.9 | and I'm a Jungian analyst in Virginia Beach, Virginia. I'm Deborah Stewart, a Jungian analyst, |
| 0:31.1 | on Cape Cod. |
| 0:46.3 | Thank you. In 1957, Young wrote the following. The years of which I have spoken to you |
| 0:49.3 | when I pursued the inner images |
| 0:52.3 | were the most important time of my life. |
| 0:56.4 | Everything else is to be derived from this. |
| 0:59.8 | It began at that time, and the later details hardly matter anymore. |
| 1:05.2 | My entire life consisted in elaborating what had burst forth from the unconscious and flooded me like an |
| 1:14.6 | enigmatic stream and threatened to break me. That was the stuff and material for more than only one life. |
| 1:23.6 | Everything later was merely the outer classification, the scientific elaboration, and the integration into life. |
| 1:33.1 | But the numinous beginning which contained everything was then. |
| 1:39.8 | And Jung, of course, is talking about his confrontation with the unconscious, which we have |
| 1:46.0 | mentioned numerous times on the podcast that began around 1913. |
| 1:52.9 | He had broken with Freud, which had been very difficult for him. |
| 1:58.8 | His whole kind of persona that he had built up for himself, his marriage, |
| 2:05.4 | his work at the perculsory, everything kind of wasn't working for him anymore. And he was having |
| 2:14.0 | some very disturbing visions that were breaking through. |
| 2:18.3 | And what he decided to do was to drop into the unconscious |
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