Welcome, all you wiretappers out there back here in the studio gangland wire. I'm on a Zoom call with some guys that have been on here before, you know, my friend Camillus Robinson, Cam Robinson, and been on here several times before. Cam, welcome. I'm glad to have you back.

As always, I'm glad to be here, Gary. So you also, a lot of you are going to know this next

man. He's really well known in the mob history. He's kind of one of the early guys in this mob history

world. Rick Porello from Cleveland. Rick, welcome. Thank you, Gary. Good to be back with you and

Kim. Now, Rick, when I kind of wasn't even

thinking about ever doing a podcast, it might have been, I might have done that. I was getting ready

to do my first documentary on the mob here in Kansas City on the mob and the skim. And Killie

Irishman came out. And I saw your documentary back then and i went to and then the

movie came out and i saw it and it was great you're you're a real inspiration i want to tell you

right now man you inspired me absolutely you were a cop too and you did all this stuff so hey if he

can do it i can do it thank you yeah yeah i've heard from a few, a few, like, regional mob authors.

It kind of said the same thing.

Makes me feel good because it was really, my first book was one of the first books,

the mafia history books that was outside of New York, outside of Chicago,

outside of Las Vegas.

And then after that, you started seeing more and more, you know, Kansas City, Philadelphia, Miami.

Yeah, really, they're all over the place now.

I tell you, on YouTube, the field is getting crowded on Bob History World with all these

bobshers that are now got YouTube channels, you know,

Sabby the Bull and Michael Franchise and Bobby Luis and Jimmy Calandra.

I tell you, I don't know how many they are.

Yeah.

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