Hey, everybody, it's your huge bruiser, Holden McNeely.

And it's me, your vertically spinning wizard, Jake.

And Holden, I got the madness.

I got the bot madness.

I yearn to see sparks fly and steal rend.

I want to see things crashing and burning and exploding.

But also, I want to learn a very human story about ingenuity and the drive to

succeed in a unconventional sport. Yes, yes. As you can hear, Jake got the bot madness. And so we just

felt like it was only right because everyone knows it takes two full weeks to get through

bot madness that we follow up our last episode with a very special

interview. Of course, a little different from our normal Epps. But man, I think probably about

five times more informative. This was a such... Holden, what have we been doing this whole time

doing recent? We could just ask the people who did the thing.

Yeah, well, we're idiots.

I feel like I got so many quotes and so much research, like so much info from the people that put on the events that got battle bots.

You know, we're talking Mark Thorpe.

We're talking Trey Roski.

All those guys. They also were, you know, we're talking Mark Thorpe, we're talking Trey Roski, all those guys.

They also were, you know, creating their own bots to battle as well in their own right,

but at the same time, they were still, ended up in more of a producer capacity and learning

so much from them about what it was like to put the show on.

But this was so special to get to talk to Jonathan Schultz of Team Huge Fame

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