Hello, everyone. Welcome back to the Epic Gardening podcast. Kevin Asperger here. I'm joined

by Matt Reese Warren who is a gardener. He's the author of The Ecological Gardener, which

is a book that is out right now. So go ahead and grab a copy. Matt, yesterday we went deep

on biochar as an amendment and as a sort of just a way to consider how to better use resources

in the garden. Today, we're talking about building a sack garden. You know, I'm a big fan of

repurposed found materials and also just growing in bags of really any kind. And so, you know,

I'm curious what type of sack gardening are you practicing? Yeah. One of the first time I saw

it was actually in Africa. I was sort of researching sort of key hog gardens and I came across

sack gardens and I visited some places down there. And I think, yeah, what struck me was the

practicality of it. So it's if you can imagine a Hessian coffee sack, like whether there's

big ones that sort of your big coffee suppliers, maybe a local coffee shop will bring their coffee beans

in. You know, the big, big old sacks with some lovely print on them. You know, about that size is

what I'm thinking. You know, you fill it up with soil and then you're you're planting, you know,

anything you want in it. It could be micro greens. It could be micro veg. It could be herbs.

You know, it's really adaptable to especially people with a really small amount of space,

you know, so you're basically vertical gardening, you know, you're trying to use as much,

you're trying to get as much out of a small amount of space because you could not only plant in

the top, but because it's Hessian and it's not a solid unit made of metal or steel or terracotta or

plastic, then you can cut into the sides and plant up the sides as well as the top. So you get this

huge surface area for a very small amount of space of you, but only, you know, you love your

gardening and all you've got is a balcony or, you know, a tiny little patio or even just a really

small sort of, you know, veg garden space that you want to get more veg into. It's fantastic for

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