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How to Survive the End of the World

Building a Movement Full of Doors and Windows with Morgan Bassichis

How to Survive the End of the World

How to Survive the End of the World

Society & Culture

4.92.3K Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2026

⏱️ 68 minutes

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The sisters are THRILLED to build with their dear friend, Morgan Bassichis. Morgan is a comedian, musician, Anti-Zionist activist and writer who has been called “a tall child or, well, a big bird” by The Nation and “fiercely hilarious” by The New Yorker. Their show, Can I Be Frank? just won an Obie!
The trio discuss finding the funny in the sad and tragic, the life of a Jewish artist fighting for Palestine, being brought up in the cult of 'it's complicated', the clarity of doing what we can to disentangle Judaism and Zionism, tapping into compassion, how haters can't make good art, shared power vs. siloed power and the precipice of something big happening in OUR lifetime.

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0:00.0

I'm Autumn Brown, Front Woman of the Soul Pop Band, Autumn, a queer science fiction writer, a theologian, a mother of dragons,

0:25.3

and a healing justice facilitator for social movements

0:28.3

living on Dakota and Inishinaabe land,

0:31.4

currently known as Minneapolis.

0:34.2

And I'm Adrienne Marie Brown,

0:36.0

a luscious black queer witch writer Auntie, an apocalyptic love scholar, and a gardener of healing ideas.

0:43.8

I live in the land of the Okanichi, Shakori, Skorouwere, Tuscarora, Ino, and Lumbie peoples currently called Durham.

0:52.0

And this is How to Survive the End of the World, our podcast about learning from

0:57.7

Apocalypse with grace, rigor, and curiosity.

1:01.2

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When you don't have ads, you can make your own jingles.

1:23.7

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All right.

1:25.7

So before we jump into our check-in today, I wanted to offer a tarot card that I pulled for this conversation from the lineages of change tarot deck, which I got to co-create with some homies.

1:37.6

And what I pulled today was the reversed root of water, the root of water, which for traditional tarot readers would sort of align with like the

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