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H.B.R. presents.

Hello, my name is Azimazar and you're listening to the Exponential View podcast. Every week I'm in deep conversation with a brilliant mind exploring the exponential era through

which we are all living.

Now this podcast is multidisciplinary. What does that mean? Well some

weeks you'll hear me discuss our future with a scientist. Other episodes might

involve an investor, a technologist, a politician, a writer, or in this case an economist.

In these uncertain times when the rate of technological change is ever increasing,

I want to offer you some of the best perspectives and most insightful thinking

on the opportunities and challenges that lie ahead.

Now before we get on to this week's conversation, one request, please, if you're listening to us on

iTunes, give us a five-star review.

It really helps other people find this podcast.

So one thing I ask of you, podcast discovery is kind of broken.

So a five star review if you're listening on iTunes.

If you're not listening on iTunes, just sharing it to a few friends via

email or on Facebook or Twitter is really helpful. Thanks very much. My guest today is

Carl Otto Perez, one of the world's leading experts on the impact of

technological change on economic growth.

I have been a massive fan of Carlotta since I read her book,

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