BTW 47: 5 of Pentacles – Real Gods Require Blood with guest Thea Wirsching

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🗓️ 5 August 2021

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Speaking on the truth of suffering and fear, Zora Neale Hurston said that, only "half gods are worshipped in wine and flowers. Real gods require blood.” The Five of Pentacles is not a comfortable card. It speaks of pain and privation, the moments that bring us to our knees. But, as Amanda and her guest Dr. Thea Wirsching discuss in this episode, those moments are also invitations from the real and often blood thirsty gods to wrestle with the angels of our history. 5s are ruled by the hierophant. The priest, the Pope, the card in the major arcana that connects us with our spiritual traditions; in some decks it is called, "Ancestor." The 5 of Pentacles demands our humility. It is an invitation to love life in it all its blizzards and madness and freezing winds. We discuss the Little Match Girl; the 4 Noble Truths of Buddhism; African American literature of the 19th century; The Wedding Crashers; how religion can offer salvation... and be a bunch of bullshit; Mercury in Taurus; and where to find refuge. Our guest is Thea Wirsching is an Evolutionary astrologer and has been practicing astrology for almost two decades. Her counseling business, The Pluto Babe, helps guide her clients in the process of releasing shame. She received her PhD from UCLA, and her dissertation focused on the history and literature of American occultism. Much of this original research appears in her forthcoming publication, The American Renaissance Tarot (2021). As a Tarot reader, Thea emphasizes the healing power of narrative and the cards’ facility to write a new story. This episode is sponsored by a new film from The Theatre Company in Portland, Oregon: Claire Willett's The Broken Heart Spread.

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0:00.0	Welcome to Between the Worlds. I'm your host of Mandiates Garcia. This season we focus on the suit
0:15.5	of pentacles all about abundance, the earth, eroticism and the underworld. Stay tuned and learn
0:23.4	how to reenchant your world with tarot, magic and more.
0:30.8	When I think of the five pentacles, the first thing I think is that you're out in the cold
0:37.8	and you need to find a place of refuge to warm you up. Stay tuned to find out how.
0:50.1	Dear listeners, witches, which lovers, I have something so exciting to tell you about. It is a new film
0:58.8	specifically created for the tarot rating community from the theater company in Portland, Oregon.
1:07.3	I always think of magic as a form of sacred theater and witches tend to be great lovers of the arts,
1:13.7	so I hope you can all feel called to show up and support this project. Let me tell you a little
1:19.6	bit more about it. So it's a film by Claire Willett and it's called The Broken Heart Spread. The
1:26.0	Broken Heart Spread is a deep dive into the world of modern tarot reading. And over the course of
1:34.0	a single day, we meet seven women at seven different personal thresholds all looking to the wisdom
1:42.8	of the tarot for guidance and matters of the hearts. The tarot cards open doors for each of the women
1:50.0	to write the next chapter of their own story. The Broken Heart Spread is currently streaming
1:56.8	through August 22nd on Stellar. And you can catch the film on your own time through video on
2:03.6	demand. Tickets start at just $20. Great way to support the arts and can be found at the
2:09.5	theaterco.org. That's theater with an RE event. All the info for that is in the show notes.
2:17.9	We hope you enjoy this movie normalizing the magic of witches.
2:27.2	So in the five of Pentacles, you see in the writerweight comments Smith version of the deck,
2:35.2	two folks they're wandering through the snow and they look very woe be gone. So one of them
2:47.4	has a bandage around their head and they have crutches. They've got a bandage around their feet.
2:57.0	Both of them are wearing truly the red bear, moth eaten clothing. They look like they might even
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