BTC239: Bitcoin, Psychology & the Return of Meaning w/ Seb Bunney (Bitcoin Podcast)

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Stig Brodersen

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🗓️ 18 June 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Seb and Preston explore the hidden emotional and societal costs of fiat currency, how Bitcoin changes our perception of value, and why money is more than just economics—it's identity. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 01:28 - The emotional toll of living within a fiat monetary system 10:04 - How Bitcoin changes the way we express values through money 12:55 - The real-life shifts that occur when someone adopts low time preference 15:37 - How hard money can enable authentic altruism and creativity 19:11 - How broken money disrupts psychological growth through Maslow’s hierarchy 20:24 - Why fiat incentives fuel fear, narrow focus, and societal disconnection 22:41 - The impact of viable saving on emotional and creative well-being 25:45 - Why fiat may be driving an identity crisis and inauthentic life paths 33:22 - What Bitcoin reveals about curiosity and intellectual integrity 41:05 - How note-taking and integration fuel personal and intellectual growth Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Seb’s book: The Hidden Cost of Money. Seb's Blog: Seb Bunney. Related book: Fiat Food. Related Episode: The Hidden Cost of Money (BTC160). Check out all the books mentioned and discussed in our podcast episodes⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Premium Feed⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. NEW TO THE SHOW? Join the exclusive ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TIP Mastermind Community⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Clay, Kyle, and the other community members. Follow our official social media accounts: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠X (Twitter)⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bitcoin Fundamentals Starter Packs⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Try our tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TIP Finance Tool⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Enjoy exclusive perks from our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠favorite Apps and Services⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Intrinsic Value Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠best business podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠sponsors⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠:⁠⁠⁠ SimpleMining Hardblock AnchorWatch Unchained Human Rights Foundation Vanta Indeed Fundrise Onramp Netsuite reMarkable Shopify Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

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0:00.0	You're listening to TIP.
0:02.7	Hey everyone, welcome to this Wednesday's release of the Bitcoin Fundamentals podcast.
0:06.8	On this week's show, I'm joined by author and deep thinker, Seb Bunny, to explore how
0:11.4	fiat money destroys our psychology, relationships, and sense of meaning.
0:16.5	We talk about time preference, identity, savings, fear, and how Bitcoin reorients us towards
0:22.7	connection, creativity, and human flourishment.
0:26.3	This conversation goes way beyond economics, and I'm really excited to bring this to you
0:30.9	guys because I am a huge fan of Seb, and he is just super insightful, as you're going
0:35.0	to see in this interview.
0:36.4	So without further delay, here's my interview with Mr. Seb Bunny.
0:43.7	Celebrating 10 years, you are listening to Bitcoin Fundamentals by the Investors Podcast Network.
0:50.4	Now for your host, Preston Pish.
1:03.0	Thank you. Now for your host, Preston Pish. Hey everyone, welcome back to the show. I'm here with Seb Bunny, author of The Hidden Cost of Money, and I'm excited to have this chat
1:09.5	with you, Seb.
1:10.5	Oh, man, Preston, every time we hang out, every time we chat, I just, I really enjoy where
1:14.3	the conversations go.
1:15.5	So, I think in the name of this episode, we were talking, we had a little bit of a chat
1:20.4	as to what we were going to discuss. And I think the theme here is money, psychology, and the
1:25.4	return of meaning to people's lives. And I guess where I want to
1:30.3	start off is just the personal cost of fiat. You do a phenomenal job kind of laying this out for
1:36.1	people and just how it psychologically distorts all of our incentives. And I guess let's start
1:43.2	there and let's have the conversation there.
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