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How to Be Fine

BTB Authors Tell All: Cristen Conger and Caroline Ervin

How to Be Fine

Kristen and Jolenta

Society & Culture, Relationships, Personal Journals, Education, Self-improvement

4.75.6K Ratings

🗓️ 3 July 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

While they’re between seasons, Jolenta and Kristen are thrilled to share a very special series that - up until now - was only available behind a paywall. It’s called By The Book Authors Tell All, and features authors whose books they lived by, as well as some authors they just happen to love.  And for more great By The Book content, listen to Dean & Kristen Look Back, exclusively on Patreon! In each episode, Dean and Kristen revisit their time on By The Book, share behind-the-scenes secrets, and give updates on their lives. Patreon is also the home of our weekly advice column, our Patreon-only season of By The Book, nearly 200 minisodes, the written rules of every self-help book we’ve lived by, and more: patreon.com/listentobythebook Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:29.9

Hey there, listeners, we have a very special treat for you. While we're between seasons,

0:35.1

we're releasing a series that was previously behind a paywall,

0:38.6

and now we're making it available for free for the first time. It's called By the Book,

0:43.7

Authors Tell All. That's right. And we are so excited about this series in it. We talk with

0:50.2

several of the authors of the books we've lived by, as well as some authors we just

0:54.5

plain like and admire. In some cases, we have a good laugh, and in others, they might tell us

1:00.0

we lived by their book wrong. Today, we're talking with Kristen Conger and Caroline Irvin,

1:04.9

authors of Unladylike, a field guide to smashing the patriarchy and claiming your space.

1:10.8

If you like what you hear, be sure to check out patriarchy and claiming your space.

1:14.8

If you like what you hear, be sure to check out the podcast on Ladylike.

1:21.5

And if you want even more Buy the Book content, join our Patreon community to get bi-weekly episodes of our new show.

1:23.8

Dean and Kristen look back. In each episode, Dean and I revisit our time on Buy the Book, share behind-the-scenes secrets,

1:29.7

and give updates on our lives. Patreon is also the home of our weekly advice column,

1:35.5

our Patreon-only season of By the Book, nearly 200 minisodes, the written rules of every book

1:41.6

we've lived by, and more. That's all at patreon.com slash listen to buy

1:46.9

the book. And now on with the show. Hey, Jolenta. Yes, Kristen. You know how we get called out a lot

1:53.9

because of our use of barnyard language? Oh, fuck yeah, I do. If another person says I sound

1:59.0

unladylike, I'm going to fucking scream.

2:15.1

It's funny you mention unladylike because our friends over at the unladylike podcast just wrote a book that's all about how to live a feminist life in today's world, including dealing with people who tell us that we're not acting the way ladies should.

2:35.3

And I bet we're going to talk to them right now, aren't we? Oh, you bet we are, because I'm Kristen Mineser. And I'm Jolenta Greenberg. And I'm Kristen Conger. And I'm Caroline Irvin. And we're the authors of Unladylike, a field guide to smashing the patriarchy and claiming your space. And this is by the book, authors tell all.

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