This next episode, number four, the one that you're talking about, it's called the man who cried

himself to sleep. It's the episode where I recount how I was disclosed to when I was 18 by

a member of the Reagan administration. Obviously, at 18, you're never expecting to get a bomb

dropped on you like that. The government has had a relationship, what we call an unholy alliance, with Hollywood

going back to the 50s, in my mind unequivocally.

But are they doing what was presented to us, which was the heroic thing?

You're going to be part of a slow drip disclosure programs.

The other side of it is it's a sci-op and it's all disinformation.

Hi, everyone, and welcome back to that UFO podcast.

As always, my name is Andy.

And joining me on today's show. I have two

guests, the first of which returning to the show, he is a writer, producer, co-creator of Dark Skies,

co-author of AD, After Disclosure, and co-host of the Wonderful Need to Know podcast with

Richard Dolan. Welcome back, Bryce Abel. Great to be here. Thank you, and I want to introduce you

and let you introduce my good friend Brent Friedman. Absolutely, and it's Brent's first appearance on

the podcast. He himself, an award-winning writer and producer whose credits include Dark Skies,

the Twilight Zone, Star Trek Enterprise, among many other acclamations in his career, someone with a long-running

personal interest in the UFO mystery.

Welcome for the first time, Brent Friedman.

Brent, you OK?

I'm doing great.

Thrilled to be here.

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