There has to be some common sense.

Yes, sir. They have the car stopped in the town of the ranch, Michael Byther.

We still don't know who pulled the trigger. Hello, everyone, and welcome to police off the cuff, real crime stories.

I'm your host, retired NYPD, Sergeant Bill Cannon, a 27-year veteran of the NYPD.

Guys, we have a really good show tonight.

I think it's sort of thought-provoking just some legalisms in this that we have the great professor and attorney Mike Gehry with us tonight

to explain that and for lesser laws but still a law and still police work we have

straight out of Brooklyn Phil Grimaldi before I bring them on the show what we're going to talk

about is the Coburger defense has raised some interesting

issues. And one of them is called the old-fashioned alibi. Are they really going to go with

the fact that he was not there? He wasn't at 1122 King Road between 0400 and 0430 on November 13th,

2022.

Is that really what they're going to go with?

So we're going to, are they going to expect the DNA, not to maybe to be thrown out,

but in the minds of the jury to be disqualified because it's

touched DNA and not blood or biological fluid DNA or hair DNA.

It's touched DNA.

So are they going to expect that the jury is just going to say, oh, yes, that knife sheath could have gotten there so many

different ways and his DNA could have gotten on the button release so many different ways.

The other thing is, and we're going to talk a little in more depth about, they were actually

looking to see to have the grand jury indictment thrown out.

Apparently, that is like being on your 40-yard line, fourth down, and you're throwing

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