Hello and welcome to Under the Skin from Loominary I'm Russell Brand. This week I spoke to Bruce Lipton

Wider than a mile. Bruce is a developmental biologist, stem cell biologist, notable for his views on epigenetics.

He is the best selling author of the biology of belief. I really enjoyed our conversation.

He says some stuff which I told you at the time would be

regarded as controversial didn't I Jen yeah the coronavirus stuff yeah that would be

regarded as controversial won't it for some people yeah I suppose in these days

lots of things would be regarded as

controversial like remember when we did that video about a vaccine like where I

said and maintain that I have no opinion. Some people went,

I see you've been got to by the vaccine people.

Like, you know.

And then other people said, this is irresponsible, it's anti vaccine.

But most people did say what it was.

It was like, this is a balanced and inquisitive approach to

looking at the complexity that exists when private non-governmental agencies and

corporations are involved in, you know, mandated, potentially mandated

nationwide or global, in this case, medicinal programs that it brings about some

complexity and highlights of the trust issues that exist these days.

So yeah, so like so some of the stuff Bruce says, yeah, I mean I think he's pretty fascinating and some of the stuff he says about

cellular biology is well cool as I always say about

cellular biology some stuff is well cool hey did you enjoy listening to Annie Lennox did you like

Annie Lennox yeah she's very nice.

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