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While the number of the morning initial jobless claims rises by 17,000 to 274,000 from

257,000 the week before, that's a five week high one estimation of Washington DC so that

wouldn't have a major effect on it so no real special factors involved here so we are just up to 274,000 of course that still keeps

us in the range of you know the historical lows. Mike we don't we don't do horse race i mean i guess that comes in the jobs tomorrow

not much move in the market as well we don't do horse race but you were kind enough

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