Brooks and Marcus on Wray's resignation and what's next for the FBI
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🗓️ 13 December 2024
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| 0:00.0 | FBI director Chris Ray's announcement that he'll be stepping down early in his 10-year term and before Donald Trump returns to office in January has sparked debate over how he should have handled his departure. |
| 0:12.4 | On that end, the other major news shaping the presidential transition, we turn to the analysis of Brooks and Marcus. |
| 0:18.5 | That is New York Times columnist David Brooks and Ruth Marcus, |
| 0:22.4 | Associate Editor for the Washington Post. Jonathan Capehart is away. Great to see you both. |
| 0:26.8 | Hi. Let's start with Ray's decision. And I want to just play for you a little bit of the comments |
| 0:30.7 | that he made to the Bureau on which he announced his decision to step down in January |
| 0:34.4 | before Donald Trump could fire him. Take a listen. |
| 0:45.0 | In my view, this is the best way to avoid dragging the Bureau deeper into the fray while reinforcing the values and principles that are so important in how we do our work. |
| 0:53.2 | David, how does leaving early in a 10-year term to avoid the incoming president firing you, |
| 0:59.3 | how does that keep the Bureau out of the political fray? |
| 1:02.0 | Beats me. |
| 1:04.1 | You know, as somebody said Ray had no good options and he happened to choose the wrong one, |
| 1:08.5 | the worst of all the options. |
| 1:10.3 | And so people have worked hard over decades to make the FBI reasonably non-political. |
| 1:15.6 | And that's important because the FBI is this tremendously powerful organization, |
| 1:20.1 | which is easily abused, as we saw in the era of J. Edgar Hoover. |
| 1:24.1 | And so that we have these 10-year terms, and the idea is that an FBI director does not turn over with the president, because we're building safeguards to depoliticize the agency. |
| 1:34.3 | And if Donald Trump wants to ruin that, then he should aggressively have to fire array, and we should have that fight. |
| 1:42.2 | And to basically open the door to what Donald Trump wants to do seems to me not the right way to keep our institutions normal. |
| 1:51.0 | Ruth, as you probably saw a veteran reporter Jim Fallows, who writes a substack on journalism and democracy, had this to say. |
| 1:57.0 | He wrote, eventually Trump would have found a way to fire Ray. Okay, Ray should have made him |
| 2:01.9 | do so rather than removing himself. He said Ray has done great damage with this decision and deserves |
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