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🗓️ 18 February 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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In this eye-opening episode, Natalie shares her personal story of spiritual abuse and excommunication, offering a powerful backdrop for her conversation with author and spiritual consultant, Remy Diederich. Together, they delve into the dynamics of toxic faith, spiritual abuse, and how unhealthy church cultures can harm individuals and families.
Remy, the author of Broken Trust, shares insights from his decades of ministry experience and his passion for helping people heal from spiritual abuse. Whether you're grappling with toxic religious environments or recovering from years of harmful teachings, this episode offers hope, practical advice, and a fresh perspective.
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Remy is a seasoned pastor and spiritual consultant with a heart for helping others overcome life's challenges. Over his three decades of ministry, he's authored six books that offer practical guidance and spiritual support for those seeking healing and connection to God. Remy's expertise extends beyond the pulpit. He's spent 24 years as a spiritual consultant at an addiction treatment center, where he's witnessed firsthand the transformative power of faith and hope. Today, Remy dedicates his time to empowering pastors to build healthy church cultures and coaching individuals on the themes of his books. A lifelong resident of Minneapolis, Minnesota, Remy is married with three adult children. His passion for helping others shines through in his writing, speaking, and counseling.
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0:00.0 | Hi, this is Natalie Hoffman of Flying FreeNow.com, and you're listening to the Flying Free |
0:07.8 | podcast, a support resource for women of faith looking for hope and healing from hidden |
0:14.2 | emotional and spiritual abuse. Welcome to episode 315 of the Flying Free Podcast. Many of you know that I was excommunicated by |
0:27.0 | Bethlehem Baptist in Minnesota for divorcing my husband of 25 years. At the time of my |
0:33.4 | official excommunication, I was already attending and volunteering at another church with my children. |
0:40.3 | The elders at Bethlehem Baptist followed me to my new church and set up a meeting with the elders |
0:45.9 | there to warn them about me. And the only reason I know that is because the head of my new church's |
0:52.2 | elder board called me after that meeting to tell me about it. |
0:56.4 | And he didn't give me any details, but he just wanted to encourage me that they were in full support of my family and myself being part of their church family. |
1:06.1 | Now, keep in mind that I had not been going to Bethlehem Baptist for a couple of years by this time, |
1:12.0 | and I was not a dangerous human being. My entire life since I was a young teenager had been |
1:19.0 | about heavy involvement in churches, volunteering for in music ministry and children's ministry for |
1:26.5 | decades. I was a faithful wife. I was a homeschooling mom. |
1:31.4 | I worked hard to take responsibility for my own life, my own parenting, and the emotions of my |
1:39.1 | immature husband. And I had reached out for help in humility and full honesty numerous times in both of the churches |
1:47.4 | that my husband and I had been members of during the course of our marriage. |
1:51.6 | But I was not given help. |
1:54.3 | However, I was given lots of advice. |
1:57.2 | Lots of shame was heaped upon me for even requesting help in the first place. And I tell my story |
2:03.4 | in my own spiritual memoir, all the scary little gods, which you can get on Amazon. But I share this |
2:10.2 | quick overview as a backdrop for our interview today. Because two years after my excommunication, |
2:17.4 | I read a book called Broken Trust. |
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