So hi and welcome back to the podcast. I'm Simon Lang. Hi and I'm Rob Fenwick. So we're at Trauma Care Conference today up in Stone.

We've got a line-up of fantastic speakers today and what we've got for you is a series of clips

of the major take-home messages from their talks.

Yeah, so they're going to be summarising some of the key aspects that we're in there

and this is really good, really nice succinct learning,

and there's some great topics that were included today.

The stream that we follow today is, unsurprisingly, trauma in the emergency department.

We've got a bit about Code Red Then and Now from Karen Brohee.

Tim Nutbeam's going to be covering the top 10 papers of 2015.

We've got resuscitive histerotomy or perimortem C-section for traumatic cardiac arrest in pregnant patients, and that's from Tracy Applyard.

We've definitely got a little bit about paediatric major trauma in the adult ED, something which scares us all a little bit, I'm sure.

To PanC.T or not to PanC.CT by Karen Parsons, a consultant radiologist at Coventry Hospital.

And John Jones, a consultant in emergency medicine from Leeds, is going to be talking to us about

updates from the Archem's subcommittee for major trauma.

Up first we've got Tracy Appleyardard who's a consultant obstetrician in Bristol

and she talked about perimortem C-section in trauma. She specifically talked about three key numbers,

20, 23 and 4 and I'll let her explain more about those two right now.

Yeah so I see Sarah explain more about those to you right now.

Yeah, so I think that there's only three numbers that you should really remember. And obviously, if you can witness a collapse in a pregnant woman and you need to work out when you're going to do the caesarean or empty the uterus

and whether you should be doing it, at what time you should be doing it how are you going to do it etc there's only

three numbers so i think from the witness collapse you start your resuscitation as you would ordinarily

and then you've got four minutes really to start making the decision about whether you're going to

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