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The John Batchelor Show

BRITISH DOUBTS, ANATOL LIEVEN, QUINCY

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 1 August 2025

⏱️ 5 minutes

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BRITISH DOUBTS, ANATOL LIEVEN, QUINCY
1942 LIVERPOOL

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0:00.0

This is CBS Island World. I'm John Batchel with Anatole Levin, who's traveling, is in his native

0:08.8

Britain, and I take this opportunity to call upon him to help me understand parliamentary politics

0:14.9

because it is not something I'm accustomed to learning quickly, and there's always sub-currents that are useful.

0:24.0

And I told it would appear from this distance that labor is in revolt from labor,

0:30.9

that Mr. Starrmer, Ms. Rainer, Ms. Reeves, are not regarded as senior leadership, but in fact are just part of the debate going on about budgets, about direction, about climate change.

0:47.1

Is that something that's useful to understand about Parliament?

0:52.2

Is it always been this way?

0:53.5

You're elected with a 165 majority,

0:56.5

and the majority starts revolting from you.

1:01.1

Yes, well, there are a number of things here.

1:03.6

One is that this huge majority is in certain respect misleading,

1:08.2

because Labor only got 33%, one third of the vote.

1:13.6

Stama in fact won fewer votes than his socialist predecessor, Corbyn.

1:20.6

But because this new right-wing populist reform party split the conservative vote. Under the first past the post system,

1:30.1

this translated into a huge majority of seats, but it doesn't actually mean that Labor is

1:35.4

enormously popular, but you know, has a majority in the population. Now that means that a lot of

1:42.3

Labour MPs are afraid of losing their seats at the next

1:48.7

elections. The other thing is that SCAMA, I mean, look, like governments all over Europe,

1:58.7

you know, the British government is in a deep economic bind. It doesn't have the money.

2:04.6

It's committed itself to massive rearmament. The money has to come from somewhere unless

2:10.6

you're going to, you know, borrow yourself potentially into a real economic crisis.

2:16.6

But Stama, who is not a politician, he's a legal

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