you're seeing really big ideological divides between the two candidates, right?

So you've got Ritchie Sunak saying that, you know, it's a fairy tale to think that you can

just cut taxes now and everything will be great and you've got Liz trust saying

taxes are way too high and we're going to have a recession unless we cut taxes.

And you know there's an old maximum British politics that oppositions don't win

elections governments lose them and at the moment the Tories look in danger

of going down that path. This next week will be among the most consequential and contemporary British politics.

Ballots are sent out to close to a couple hundred thousand Tory party members on August 1st

and then they can begin voting right away.

Whoever wins moves into Number 10 Downing Street and becomes Prime Minister in September

without first having to go through a general election.

So this next week is crucial for the two leading

candidates to form final impressions before voting begins. Raising the

stakes on Monday night's debate televised on BBC 1 for those of you that want to watch. I'll be tuned in, being the

political junkie that I am when it comes to all things UK, but to help us

understand the process, the candidates and what this all means for the UK at home, the

UK's economy, and the UK and the world, we are joined by James Forsyth, who is about as

dialed in as anyone I know in Westminster. James is the political editor of The Spectator

magazine. He's also a weekly columnist for The Times of London. He previously was a journalist

for UK publications, The Sun and the Mail, and is a regular on The Spectator Podcasts.

Again, the most consequential week in contemporary British politics coming this week, this

is Call me back. So whenever I want to get a download on what's actually happening in UK politics,

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