I'm John Besser with Ennertol Lieven of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft.

He's in Paris and the French election is undecided.

So is the British election on July 4th.

The three contestants that are significant here are labor led by Kirste Armourmer who does very well in the polling

although it's confusing these days because we're coming to the last hours and

there are doubts about leadership in labor but there should be because labor is going to be in

control of parliament the polls say then they're the conservatives who've been

an authority for 13 years led by Rishi Sunak and no one likes their chances the polling has them at

about 20 whereas labors about 40 coming up quickly however is the unknown

Nigel Farage a personality quickly however is the unknown.

Nigel Farage, a personality, leading what is called the Reform UK Party, polling very

well closing on conservatives.

And right now there's a headline saying Farage is you

reform UK could have 18 seats that doesn't sound like many so I need

Anatole's understanding of what this means because Far, like Le Penh is saying the Ukraine war is not

our war and it's time to negotiate and stop the fighting. Is that significant in

the final count? Does that influence Parliament or the popular

opinion of supporting Ukraine through NATO, Henitol?

Well, the thing is, you know, we have a first pass the post electoral system in Britain, which

produces some, can produce some really weird results, because actually, Labor's popular vote has not gone up significantly.

It's just that the conservative vote has collapsed and instead of the conservative voters are either just staying home or going

over to Farage and his reform party or in some cases the liberals.

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