Greetings and welcome, fierce listeners. If you ever wondered how you can be a part of what God is doing in your spouse's heart, even when it feels like they've completely, their stone walling you or their heart has been turned into stone. This is an episode that is sure to bless you. It's sure to give you some insight. We actually got to talk to a friend of ours. His name is Jared Lopes. He runs a ministry out of Portland, Oregon. It's called Dad Tired. He's got a Facebook group. It's got over 10,000 members.

They have a podcast that's highly popular. And the whole ministry is around trying to just

remind men and really contextualize their lives around the gospel in terms of fatherhood

and being a husband.

And anyway, we did talk about parenting a little bit in this episode, but don't lose heart.

We talked about marriage.

We talked specifically how Layla Jared's wife prayed and contended for him in a time when he thought they were headed toward divorce and how that resulted in God's softening his heart.

So if you've ever been there, then this episode will be one that gives you hope.

I also want to make note, we recorded this episode a little while back before a lot of the

current events that are unfolding as you listen to this.

So there's a little bit of context that might seem off, but just rest assured, we didn't

record this yesterday.

We recorded it a little while back, months ago, in fact. So anyway, I'm still confident the

content is relevant. So do listen. We hope it blesses you and we'll see you on the other side. All right, we're here with Jared Lopes.

Hey man, how you doing?

I'm doing so good.

Thanks for having me.

All right.

Yeah, it's, we were just saying off before we started recording that we're a little rusty

on the interview side of things.

So fierce listeners have some patience with us.

We'll try to ask good, compelling questions.

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