Okay, I got to say, as we start this episode, I'm honestly, I'm just gutted.

I don't know what to say, and it's because obviously there's a lot of stuff happening in our nation around the world.

Social unrest, there's all kinds of opinions being thrown around the internet so brashly.

And I get that there's a lot of pain in the world, but honestly, what is really disheartening to me is what I see is the breakdown of productive communication in our society.

At least that's what it feels like.

I know there's probably productive communication happening offline.

I hope there is.

I feel like there's that's another conversation.

But the whole point of

this episode is to kind of address productive communication in a marriage context around these

types of issues. Yeah. Okay. So we're not the first couple to deal with this, but we've had

heated conversations around politically charged topics. It's not because we're not an agreement.

It's that there's, there's nuances to our communication that don't always come out and they get

amplified by the depth of our relationship.

Which is interesting because as much as I think Ryan and I have always been in agreement

on the same path for like majority of the time, there are few things that cause us to kind of feel divided on

some things to have to really hash through to even resign being unresolved on a few things but

how do we still find unity right how do we still um ground ourselves in the things of god right

and how are we submitting or not submitting to his authority and his word in our lives

in these conversations and in these, the elephants in the room, right?

So I think the goal of this episode, again, is just to kind of acknowledge the elephant, right?

We're not elephant interpreters here, but we are

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