Bring Shamima Begum Home - To Face Justice
The Owen Jones Podcast
Owen Jones
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🗓️ 25 February 2023
⏱️ 10 minutes
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Summary
Shamima Begum should be tried in her own country for her alleged crimes: why? Because she's British. That she was groomed, trafficked and then placed in a forced marriage has been erased, because it means dealing with an unavoidable fact: she was radicalised here, and she is our problem. Instead the government has announced that millions of Britons have citizenship which is conditional - because someone like myself would not have citizenship revoked if we committed a serious crime. This is a truly horrendous precedent.
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| 0:00.0 | Sometimes you need to say things which you know in your heart of heart are right, but which are profoundly unpopular. |
| 0:08.0 | If a cross section of the British population, which was representative, was to watch and listen to what I have to say, |
| 0:16.0 | then a very large majority would disagree with me. |
| 0:19.0 | But saying the right thing when it's unpopular to do so is exactly the time when you need to say the right thing. |
| 0:26.0 | Now, we're talking today about Shemima Begum, who's lost her appeal against the stripping of her British citizenship. |
| 0:33.0 | Let's talk about it. |
| 0:35.0 | Now, Begum was born in this country in 1999. She is as British as I am. |
| 0:40.0 | When she was a 15-year-old girl, she was radicalized and groomed and trafficked, left for ISIS-controlled Syria, the best part of the decade ago, when she was a schoolgirl. |
| 0:50.0 | Within days of arriving, she married a Dutch-born ISIS fighter, who's 80 years older than her, we'll talk about that, and gave birth to three children, all of whom died. |
| 1:00.0 | Now, in 2019, after the so-called Islamic State had essentially collapsed, she was found in a refugee camp in northern Syria. |
| 1:11.0 | And the next day, the Tory government revoked her British citizenship. |
| 1:15.0 | Now, the government claimed she had dual Bangladeshi citizenship, but Bangladesh denies this, and was also declared that she entered Bangladesh, she would be executed. |
| 1:23.0 | Under international law, it is illegal to deprive some of citizenship, if that leads from stateless. |
| 1:28.0 | Also, a violation of British law under the British Nationality Act of 1981. |
| 1:33.0 | But let's go on the basis that she has dual citizenship, on the government's claim, they're very strident about it. |
| 1:40.0 | What this is saying, what the government is saying, is that for millions of dual nationality Britons, and there are many millions of dual nationality Britons, |
| 1:49.0 | your citizenship is conditional in a way it is not for everybody else. |
| 1:55.0 | So, your citizenship is a privilege, not a right. My citizenship is just a right, yours is a privilege. |
| 2:01.0 | Now, there are serious allegations against Bacon, allegations which deserve to be tested in a court law. |
| 2:06.0 | And I'm obviously not asking you to approve of Bacon, I don't, obviously. |
| 2:10.0 | I mean, a few years ago, she said she felt nothing when she saw the head of a man who'd been decapitated on the basis that he was an enemy of Islam. |
| 2:19.0 | Don't know what her position is now, but obviously these sorts of utterances are rightly very, very disturbing. |
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