Bring Back V10s: Senna vs Schumacher - The flashpoints
The Race F1 Podcast
The Race Media Ltd
4.5 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 19 March 2026
⏱️ 80 minutes
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Summary
Bring Back V10s returns! And we're kicking off Season 13 with something a bit different, as we revisit the major flashpoints in the short-lived Ayrton Senna/Michael Schumacher F1 rivalry.
Glenn Freeman, Ben Anderson and Edd Straw dig into the times Senna and Schumacher fell out during their brief spell together on the F1 grid - and yes, that includes Senna's iconic public telling off that he gave Schumacher at the 1992 French Grand Prix while wearing a pastel jumper!
We also explore how their relationship and rivalry appeared to be evolving heading into 1994, and how Schumacher handled the loss of Senna that year, both publicly and in private.
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| 0:00.0 | The Athletic |
| 0:02.7 | Michael Schumacher versus Ayrton Center is one of the great F1 rivalries we never got to see play out in full. |
| 0:17.6 | But in their short time together on the F1 grid, they gave us plenty of tasters of how |
| 0:21.7 | explosive this feud could have been. With Schumacher emerging as the potential next big threat |
| 0:27.1 | to Senna, they clashed on track and off it. There were public arguments, sometimes very public, |
| 0:33.0 | shots fired behind the scenes, and even a physical altercation. So while we never got to see them fight each other for a championship, |
| 0:40.6 | we still got plenty of fireworks. |
| 0:42.6 | And that's what we're here to discuss today for the first episode of season 13 of Bring Back V10. |
| 0:52.3 | I'm Glenn Freeman and joining me to revisit the flashpoints of the short-lived Senna Schumacher feud are Ed Straar and Ben Anderson. |
| 1:02.8 | Ed, welcome back for another series of Bring Back V-Tens. No change yet to the traditional opening question. |
| 1:08.6 | So when you think of Senna versus Schumacher, what's the first |
| 1:11.6 | thing that comes to mind? Well, pastel jumpers. It's pastel jumpers. I've come in the closest |
| 1:17.2 | I can get to the famous Ayrton Center pastel jumper, which I did some research and it's either |
| 1:22.8 | kind of, maybe it's peach, maybe it's pale, pale peach, I think I've seen it described as, or salmon. |
| 1:28.0 | So I look around. |
| 1:30.0 | It's in that ballpark. |
| 1:31.7 | But I thought both intubate to Senna and also because knowing how these go, I'll probably have to issue a pastel jumper lecture to Ben when he's wrong. |
| 1:39.9 | And I'll have to say, I am surprised with you, Anderson. |
| 1:42.1 | You, Anderson, should know better. |
| 1:44.0 | Yes, exactly. So, yeah, it is the pastel jumper lectures, which I'm sure we'll get on to. Yeah, big running joke in the race members club, that one. But we've all given it some sort of jumper sweatshirt set up. It's rare that we have Ed not wearing a shirt. So that's how committed to the cause he is. I'm not a jump very off putting. No, jump a fan. No, well you're stuck now in one for the next |
| 2:03.8 | hour or so. Ben, what stands out for you? For me, it's what might have been. I got into Formula |
| 2:09.7 | 1 just as Ed and departed the earth. So you could see it finally beginning to be realized as an on-track narrative and it just didn't happen. |
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