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Timothy Gagline is with us today.

He is vice president at Focus of the Family on the Family in Washington, D.C.

He served in the White House in George W. Bush's two terms, and he has authored a new book

entitled Toward a More Perfect Union, The Moral and cultural case for teaching the great American story.

Our topic today. Welcome, Mr. Gagline.

It's great to be with you. Thank you, Mark. Thanks for having me.

Let's jump right into the bad news here, because we've got good news as well that we'll get to.

But what is the particular American crisis that you state at the beginning

and that prompts your book? The American crisis, and it is incontrovertible, is that we are now

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