Turning Point USA's AmFest 2025 saw a record number of attendees pour into Phoenix last weekend to watch a host of MAGA and MAHA luminaries proclaim they're raging against the Deep State—even though their coalition is now the Deep State. Derek and Julian look at the conference through the lens of the white, Christian Nationalist identity politics on display. Show Notes Inside AmericaFest: Infighting, lies and the desperate search for Charlie Kirk’s heir Vance Refuses to Take Sides in G.O.P. Fight Over Bigotry Turning Point exposed a brewing MAGA civil war. Can JD Vance unite it? ‘It’s Very Controversial, but I Love Nick Fuentes’ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices