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Conspirituality

Bonus Sample: Alien Abduction Mack Daddy

Conspirituality

Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker

Science, Society & Culture, Social Sciences, Philosophy

4.22K Ratings

🗓️ 29 December 2025

⏱️ 6 minutes

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Summary

Listen to the full episode In 1994, Pulitzer Prize-winning Harvard psychiatry professor John E. Mack became one of the most pedigreed proponents of UFOs, alien abductions, and the alien-hybrid breeding scheme. He was introduced to celebrated painter, amateur hypnotherapist,  and UFO researcher Budd Hopkins by transpersonal psychologist Stan Grof. Hopkins had helped author Whitley Strieber recover the abduction “memories” that became the book (and then movie) Communion. Mack and Hopkins quickly produced their own movie, Intruders. Mack published Abduction: Human Encounters with Aliens, going on the TV talk-show circuit with star patients that believed they were being experimented on while on alien spacecraft. Oprah slotted alien abductions right into her schedule, alongside Satanic ritual abuse, multiple personality disorder, and past-lives regressions.  In reasoning not unfamiliar to Conspirituality listeners, Hopkins claimed a government conspiracy was covering up the ET hybrid breeding scheme, while Mack explained the lack of physical evidence by claiming the abduction experience “challenged the Western paradigm of materialist science.” The X-Files TV show was inspired by their work, which also spawned today’s generation of UFO grifters, alien channelers, and pastel-Q lightworkers.  For today’s installment of his The Roots of Conspirituality series, Julian explores the characters, stories, psychology, and cultural significance of fantastical repressed memories retrieved under hypnosis—be they of horny demons, ritual Satanic abuse, or alien scientists who steal abductee’s DNA in the night. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I remember a light hitting me in the forehead, aliens in my room, being lifted up into a spaceship.

0:09.0

I remember being lying on a table, lying naked, having probes put around me, experiments done on me,

0:16.0

looking in my eyes, my ears, around my body.

0:18.0

So this happened to you what? In the middle of the day?

0:20.0

Are you... They happen at nighttime. Okay, so when you're sleeping? In the middle of the night, I woke up, very conscious, walked over to my living room, saw something in the room, felt the white light, felt the paralysis, and then I fell asleep. Several hours later I woke up and had these intense emotions. But Dr. Mack tape recorded several of his therapy sessions with Peter, including one where Peter

0:42.3

was under hypnosis, and during these sessions, Peter recalled his meetings with the aliens.

0:47.3

I'm in my room in Hawaii, and they lifted me up.

0:52.3

I'm like this. They got me.

0:56.0

Oh, oh.

0:59.0

That's Oprah Winfrey hosting alien abductee, Peter Faust,

1:03.0

and his therapist, the Harvard Psychiatry Professor John Mack,

1:07.0

on her TV show in 1994.

1:09.0

The same year Mac published his book, Abduction, Human Encounters

1:12.7

with Aliens. The book and its publicity tour was at the center of a wild narrative about

1:17.2

extraterrestrial visitors performing terrifying experiments on humans who, usually under hypnosis,

1:23.1

recalled anal probes, nasal implants, and forced extraction of ova and semen. The purpose of all this,

1:30.0

an ominous alien human breeding project often enacted on spacecraft to which victims

1:35.1

were repeatedly transported, sometimes even meeting their own half-alien hybrid babies.

1:41.8

This kind of subject matter made Oprah Winfrey very rich. She joyfully

1:46.1

shoveled pseudoscience and paranormal conspiracyism into the black hole appetite of the

1:50.8

American public and was repaid in kind. By 1995, Forbes listed her net worth at $340 million,

1:58.2

and in 2003, Oprah became a billionaire. This was due in part to her coverage

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