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no bull and the aftermath.

It would be dangerous to overuse to misuse section 4 because it would be like 24 in homeland

and these shows where they just don't like what he's doing.

So you'd need one other element here.

If you think that he's not just doing a bad job but he's actually off his rocker in a

dangerous way, not just that you think he's impaired but that he's creating this existential

threat.

Section 4 gives us a little room to say, well at a certain point the crazier his order

is, the more damaging it would be, the more urgent it is to stop him quicker than impeachment

could do.

I'm David Priest and this is the LawFair podcast, November 26, 2019.

Brian Calt is the professor of Law at Michigan State University.

Back in 2012 he wrote constitutional cliffhangers, a book about all of the gaps in and the

potentially disruptive interpretations of the Constitution's text.

While he's back again with a new book called Unable, the Law, Politics and Limits of

section 4 of the 25th Amendment.

The book is only about the 270 words in the fourth section of that amendment.

In this conversation I talk with him about the need for something better than what the

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