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wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to the HBR Ideacast from Harvard Business Review. I'm Allison Beard.

I'm here today with the Oscar winning producer Brian Grazer,

the man behind films like A Beautiful Mind and Apollo 13

and the new hit TV show Empire. Mr. Grazer, thanks so much for joining me.

Thanks so much.

So you have a new book out called A Curious Mind

and it talks about the importance of curiosity.

How has it helped you in your career?

Basically, I've just used it singularly as a superpower in my life and that I've just developed this kind of method of how I would create a bridge between myself

and somebody else that's expert in something

other than the entertainment business.

And so I've used it to enlarge in my life by meeting

people that are experts in areas like architecture or fashion or two CIA directors, you know, and hundreds of no-blowerates.

So basically by doing that, it's added so much more depth to me and so therefore it empowers

enables me to have a better more accurate sense of what ideas feel authentic and what ideas feel

inauthentic or copycats of other ideas.

So in the business of storytelling, you look for, you know,

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