I know that deep down you want people to feel bad for you so they feel obligated to buy your

coaching package versus actually just putting out a product that's so good that people don't have

any other choice but to buy it and that's what drives me crazy and I think to your earlier point about how do you deal with failure I know your good buddies with Tim Kennedy

I just love that quote of hurry up and fail Let's go. Go. Welcome to Citizen. We've got a special.

Welcome to Citizen. We've got a special guest today.

Brett Ender from Meat Mafia. How's it going?

Good brother, thanks for having me. Yeah. For sure, yeah. We're gonna do this, I thought

we're gonna do this fully vertical now, that's what we talked about when you came on our show a couple months ago. I don't know. I don't do that. What does that mean? Like standing up? Just standing up. I don't do that. I'm lazy as shit. Although we have my buddy Mickey Gull is UFC fighter he always stands up during the show even if everybody else is sitting down

So we have to adjust camera angles for his princess ass every time you know yeah, so I'm trying to be low maintenance here he's a

Boston boy right I think they're Jersey okay he's from Jersey nice I'll

remember is that where you're from that's I'm from Jersey originally and then I played baseball in college up in Boston. It's absolutely miserable.

What school do you go to up there? So I first played at a division one school in New Jersey

called Seton Hall University so I had a scholarship to go there.

That's what Seton Hall is I think. I think so. It's a big East school well in basketball.

Yeah they're good at basketball they have a good baseball team too and then wasn't playing much there so I just transfer

to Bapsin which is a small business school up in Boston just to try and get a good education

and yeah that's where I went to school.

What kind of school is Bapsen?

Like what did you major in I guess?

It's interesting because it's actually a straight business school.

It's only 2,500 students and if you graduate from Vaps and you have a degree,

a bachelor's in business administration, but they're known for their entrepreneurship program.

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