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Finding Mastery with Dr. Michael Gervais

Brené Brown on Vulnerability, Courage, and our Fear of People’s Opinions | From the FM Archives

Finding Mastery with Dr. Michael Gervais

Dr. Michael Gervais

Sport Psychology, Finding Mastery, Mental Health, Mindfulness, Business, Self Help, Michael Gervais, Health & Fitness, Mindset, Psychology, Self-improvement, Education

4.71.7K Ratings

🗓️ 15 November 2023

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

"You cannot get to courage without walking right through vulnerability."

They say opinions are cheap, but the cost of FOPO – the fear of other people's opinions – is anything but.

As many of you already know, I've recently released 'The First Rule of Mastery,' a book dedicated to overcoming what I've come to see as the single greatest constrictor of human potential: FOPO.

And so, in celebration of this special milestone, I'm excited to re-release a pivotal conversation with Dr. Brené Brown, whose eloquent insights on FOPO are invaluable.

I found that while writing and beginning to share the book, I was consistently drawn back to this very episode again and again… 

For those new to her work, Brené is a renowned research professor at the University of Houston, where she's spent over two decades studying courage, vulnerability, shame, empathy, and leadership…

She's the author of six New York Times bestsellers, and her iconic TED talk - The Power of Vulnerability – is one of the most viewed TED talks of all time, with over 63 million views. 

Remarkable.

Brené is a legend… and her timeless and practical wisdom guides us through overcoming the paralyzing fear of other people's opinions, unlocking our full potential and dancing on the razor's edge of vulnerability, authenticity and courage.

Whether it's a revisit or your first listen, this conversation is as relevant as ever. Perhaps even more so.

And with that, I am super excited to re-share a fresh version of our 2018 conversation with the one and only Dr. Brené Brown!

With fire,

MG

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Caring what everyone thinks and not caring what anyone thinks are both super problematic.

0:07.0

When you care about what everyone thinks you lose the willingness to be vulnerable and to put yourself out there.

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When you stop caring about what anyone thinks at all, to be vulnerable and to put yourself out there.

0:12.6

When you stop caring about what anyone thinks at all,

0:15.6

you lose your capacity for connection

0:17.4

because we're hard-wired neurobiologically

0:19.7

to care about what people think.

0:21.5

So our job becomes to get specific on whose opinions matter. Okay, welcome back, or welcome to the Finding Mastery Podcast. I am your host Dr. Michael Jervay by

0:40.8

trade and training, a High Performance Psychologist.

0:43.0

And today, I am really excited to re-share a fresh version of our 2018 conversation

0:50.0

with the one and the only Dr. Bernay Brown.

0:53.3

As many of you know, I just published my first book.

0:55.6

It's titled The First Rule of Mastery.

0:58.6

And it's all about this excessive worry

1:00.4

that we have about what somebody might be thinking of us and how that gets in the way of our

1:04.9

potential. And so I wanted to re-release this episode with Bernay because it speaks so elegantly to that topic.

1:12.6

I found that while writing and beginning

1:15.1

to share the book, this episode in my mind

1:17.3

came up again and again and again.

1:19.2

So if you're unfamiliar with her work,

1:21.0

she's a research professor at the University of Houston where she's spent over two decades, plus studying courage and vulnerability and shame and empathy and leadership. She's the author of six New York Times bestsellers and her TED Talk, the power of vulnerability,

1:37.0

it's just so good. It's one of the most downloaded TED Talks of all time.

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