Brené Brown on Jesus and vulnerable spirituality

The Spiritual Life with Fr. James Martin, S.J.

America Media

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.9 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 October 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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On our Season One finale of “The Spiritual Life” podcast, Host James Martin, S.J., welcomes the incomparable researcher and storyteller, Brené Brown. Brené is a research professor at the University of Houston, the author of six #1 New York Times bestsellers and the host of two award-winning podcasts. In 2024, she was named as the executive director of The Center for Daring Leadership at BetterUp. In this open and courageous conversation, they discuss: How Brené became Catholic as a child and where she finds her spiritual home today Brené’s own take on The Examen prayer and the twist she adds to the Our Father and Hail Mary. How Brené thinks about the connection between her research on fear, shame and vulnerability, and the person of Jesus we encounter in the gospels. Link to Fr. Jim’s spiritual advice article on this episode: https://www.americamagazine.org/podcasts/2025/10/28/brene-brown-james-martin-spiritual-life We’re taking a couple months break, but will be back with Season 2 of “The Spiritual Life” in the New Year. In the meantime, be sure to check out America Media’s Advent podcast, Hark!: the stories behind our favorite Christmas carols, hosted and produced by Maggi Van Dorn. Do you have a spiritual question for Fr. Jim? You can write to us at: thespirituallife@americamedia.org Become a subscriber today at Americamagazine.org/subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Body, mind, and spirit.
0:03.0	We believe if one needs help, so do the others.
0:06.4	As part of Catholic Health Care's holistic approach to treating the whole person,
0:10.8	here, people are not viewed as symptoms or insurance claims.
0:14.8	And when we treat the body, mind, and spirit, we believe the whole person will thrive.
0:20.5	Catholic Health Care, learn more at we care
0:23.3	you flourish.org sponsored by the Catholic Health Association welcome to the spiritual life
0:34.2	I'm Father Jim Martin on this this podcast, we reflect on how people
0:38.1	experience God in their prayer and in their daily lives. And I am joined by my wonderful producer,
0:43.9	Maggie Van Doren. Maggie, so good to be with you. It's great to be with you on our final
0:48.4	episode of Season 1 of the Spiritual Life. And we are so excited. We've been waiting for this guest for a long time.
0:55.3	We are speaking with Brene Brown.
0:58.2	Can you tell us a little bit about her for those who don't know her?
1:00.7	Yeah.
1:01.7	So in addition to being my personal hero,
1:03.8	Renee Brown is a research professor at the University of Houston,
1:07.6	where she holds the Huffington Foundation endowed chair
1:10.2	at the Graduate College of Social Work.
1:13.0	Brinney Brown burst onto the scene in 2010 with a TED Talk called The Power of Vulnerability.
1:19.6	It went viral. I recommend it to everybody and she has many other great talks that she's done since.
1:27.4	She is the author of six New York Times bestsellers and the host of two award-winning podcasts.
1:33.9	Furnay holds a position of Professor of Practice and Management at the University of Texas at Austin McComb School of Business.
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