This is the Beautiful Writers Podcast. I'm Danielle Lipport, and I'm here with Linda Sieverts,

where we are chatting with some of the most amazing authors, publishing leaders, and creatives.

Between the two of us, Linda and I have written something like 12 books, including our co-creation, your big beautiful book plan.

And we're here because we love this game.

We love everything about the publishing industry, about getting ideas out into the world and being as creative as you possibly can.

This all started with us interviewing some of our favorite agents and fellow authors

for a membership group that we have called The Beautiful Writers Group.

And because we don't believe friends should let their friends write alone,

we are sharing the interviews with you.

So for the next 45 minutes, because 45 minutes is a new hour, we will be digging deep and going for the light. Thank you. So for the next 45 minutes, because 45 minutes is a new hour, we will be digging deep

and going for the light. Welcome. Hey, everybody, it's Danielle. Just one quick mention before we

get into the podcast. While we were recording this, there were a bunch of

very hot men building a very tall fence outside of my very thin window and that noise shows up

in this recording. So thanks for understanding on with the show. Hi, hi, everyone. Linda Sievertson here

with Danielle and we are coming to you with one of today's most beloved authors, Dr.

Bray Brown. If you're one of the over 25 million viewers who have watched her 2000 and TED, TEDx Houston talk on the power of vulnerability,

you know that she is a research professor at the University of Houston and has spent the past 13 years studying

vulnerability, courage, worthiness, and shame.

Bray is one of those rare authors who has seen three of her books, Rising Strong, Daring

Greatly, and the Gifts of Imperfection all hit number one on the New York Times bestseller list. Her groundbreaking research

has been featured all over the major media, and she is also the founder and CEO of the

Daring Way and Courage Works, which is an online community that offers e-courses, workshops,

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