Good morning. Good afternoon. Good evening, wherever you are. And welcome to the politics guys with your host, Jay Carson and Michael Baranowski.

Welcome to the politics guys. I'm Michael Baranowski, a political scientist at Northern Kentucky University.

My guest today is political scientist Brendan Nyen, a professor in the Department of Government at Dartmouth College.

His research on political misperceptions has been published in many of the top journals in the field,

and he's also a contributor to the upshot at the New York Times, one of my must-read

sites.

Now, if you want to keep up with what he's writing, which I highly recommend, you should check

out his blog at brandonion.com and follow him on Twitter, and we'll have those links in our

show notes.

So make sure you check that out.

Presser 9, welcome to the show.

Thanks for having me.

You know, I first became familiar with your work when I was researching my book

navigating the news. And one of the first things I came across was your paper on

president's vulnerability to media scandals. And to me, this seems particularly

relevant right now for, I think, obvious reasons. And so

I wanted to start with that and ask you, according to your research, what does make presidents

more vulnerable to scandal? And I guess based on that, what do you expect to see or wouldn't

you be surprised to see scandal-wise in the Trump administration?

Well, that's a great question. It's certainly relevant to the work that I've done. I found that

two factors seem to be most important in when presidents are vulnerable to scandal. One is how

dislike they are by the opposition party, which reflects

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