So I hope you guys enjoy Zakia and out in my conversation.

Thought there was a great good combo.

Today we have Emmanuel Perez who actually does classes twice a week to help see if fathers are ready for

fatherhood.

To make sure, you know, a lot of times courts appoint somebody to check and see if fathers are dangerous.

Apparently black men and Hispanic men are labeled dangerous immediately by the world because of the way we are socialized so sometimes they are

sent off to a counselor just to make sure that they're good around the babies now

I don't understand why that happens.

Emmanuel actually lets us know why that happens,

but he also speaks on why fathers are necessary,

the things we need to get over in order to be fathers, to be present, and the benefits of doing so.

He also speaks on the benefits of therapy.

I thought this was a really important conversation and I'm just so sad that everybody brings up how important therapy is, but none of us really want to do it.

Everybody's scared to do it.

So Emmanuel and I sat down and had a real inward conversation about fatherhood and the way we view our children's mothers.

Pay attention to that line right there because I learned something about the way that I speak to my baby mother

speak to my children's mothers and the you know connotation of certain words that we use and you know how they influence

negative behavior. So without further ado let's get into today's episode where we speak with

Emmanuel Perez about fatherhood, why it's so important for us to give up that shit that's keeping us angry and keeping us away from therapy and

fucking up our homes you know I've really enjoyed this episode. I hope you do too. Let's go.

Yo, do you, um, you got kids? Yeah, I got one.

You got kids?

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