Hey all, Joe here and you are listening to Under the Influence.

I'm sitting in my closet right now.

Just sitting here staring at all of my stuff.

I have so much stuff.

And I just, I need to get to a place where I'm not buying

any more stuff because I don't need any more stuff. My kids don't need any more stuff.

But like, look, it's really hard. For some reason, acquiring things seems to be a human compulsion and a condition

of sorts. But I do want to try to be better, not just because more stuff is bad for the earth,

but because I don't need it. Because cleaning up right now is just such a beast.

And so I want less of it.

I do.

I do.

To start out, I've been trying to do a less buy summer.

So I can't do no buy, right?

But I've been trying to do less by.

And I chatted with someone in the beginning of the summer to try to help me do that.

That's going to be the first part of this episode.

You might know Diane Bowden from the great podcast minimalist moms.

Diane is so good at talking about how we can live with less.

And ways that real people can do that, okay?

Because I follow some of these no buy accounts

and I'm like, that's not my life. And also I don't think it's your life either because I do think

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