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UK slash podcast to learn more. Welcome, everybody, to the Untold Story podcast.

I'm Martha McCallum.

I am really excited to be joined today by Sheree DeVoe.

She is the horse trainer for the winning Kentucky Derby horse Golden Tempo.

And, you know, I'm not a big horse person.

I've been to the derby.

It's one of the most fun things that you can do. And I love just to like ride horses occasionally. But Sheree DeVoe is like, she's dedicated her

whole life to horses and training horses. And she's the first woman trainer to win the

derby, which is just a really cool moment. And I think we all had so much fun

watching the expression on your face when Golden Tempo won this race. So, Sheree, welcome.

It's so great to have you here. Thank you for having me on. So I think, you know, I watched

probably three or four times that great video of you and you're just the expressions

and all the emotions going through you. And if anybody out there hasn't seen it, you have to watch

it as just pure anticipation, excitement, a little bit of anxiety and then just like unbridled joy.

It's just an incredibly wonderful thing to watch. So, you know, just give us a little

sense of what, what that moment was like. And then I want to hear about how you, you know, what,

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